Susan Mortimer and Betty Reid Mandell from Survivor's, Inc. talked about the humiliation visited on welfare recipients by case workers and legislators. Both talked about trying to mobilize the fight against poverty and injustice and not against poor people. "The only war we need to win is the war that intends to deny what we all witness each and every day: The injustice of Poverty and Hunger." ( from a poem read by Mary Woodman Amato)